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Re: [rtcweb] Agenda time request for draft-marjou-rtcweb-audio-codecs-for-interop-01

Xavier Marjou <xavier.marjou@gmail.com> Fri, 15 March 2013 13:51 UTC

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Again, this threads deals with interoperability (i.e. communications
between a WebRTC device and a non-WebRTC device).
Non-WebRTC devices mean nearly all of existing phones in the world; they
are already deployed and there's no way to upgrade them all with OPUS on
them.

Xavier

On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com> wrote:

>
> I don't think this points to a need to push AMR into the web browsers,
> mind you. To take Justin's earlier point a few steps further: if we're
> going on number of shipping units, the mere existence of Chrome and
> Firefox's WebRTC implementation means that the number of deployed Opus
> codecs far overwhelms the number of deployed AMR codecs. Appeals to the
> size of codec deployment would more reasonably reach the conclusion that
> Opus should be MTI for the next 3GPP release. ;-)
>
> /a
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