Re: [rtcweb] Counting NOs (Re: Straw Poll on Nokia mincing)

[Monty Montgomery <[e-mail]>]

> In the context of an IETF WG, "determined by consensus" generally means that
> the WG made a determination. If the WG didn't make such a determination
> but some other group did, it would probably be appropriate to qualify the group
> that made the determination.

Then you honestly misunderstood me, and I apologize for apparently
calling you out.  The message I wrote was really a continuation of the
thoughts I'd not put in the previous message.  It was not directed at
you (though it _was_ directed, apparently badly).

Opus did indeed have several spurious IPR declarations against it,
marked willing to license FRAND.  For a codec intended from inception
to be RF, that would have been a death sentence (and abject failure in
the minds of most of the individuals who contributed) had the
declarations been believable.  Simply being 'better' was unlikely to
be sufficiently compelling.

Monty