Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs and the staw poll
Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com> Tue, 28 January 2014 16:14 UTC
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs and the staw poll
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On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 7:17 AM, Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no>wrote: > Just to be 100% sure: > > This is the US version of "table" (put aside), not the UK version of > "table" (start working on), right? > This is one of the words I try avoid using. > > We mean "put aside". Sorry for any lack of clarity; we thought the "until about six weeks before IETF 91" eliminated the confusion, but probably should have just said "put aside.". Ted > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_(parliamentary_procedure) > > Apart from that, +1 on both the decision to postpone and the conclusion > that there doesn't seem to be a basis for forming a consensus on any > proposal but 1, 2, 3 and 4. > > > On 01/28/2014 06:13 AM, Cullen Jennings wrote: > > Dear WG, > > > > After reviewing the poll results found here: > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rtcweb/current/pdfWd2PIhOY9y.pdf the > chairs concludes that the working group still believes that an MTI is > required for the WebRTC ecology to develop. There are a number of > options which did not garner significant support; essentially only options > 1, 2, 3, 4 seem to have enough support that they might be the eventual > basis of working group consensus. The chairs do not view the other options > as having sufficient support to warrant further working group activity or > discussion. > > > > There is no obvious leader between VP8 and H.264, however, nor obvious > support for selecting both. Each has similar numbers of supporting > positions and objections, and both have the support of well over half the > participants in the straw poll. Given that, we are no closer to being able > to choose between them at this time. > > > > The chairs therefore propose tabling the discussion of a mandatory to > implement video codec until about 6 week before the start of the IETF 91 > meeting in November 2014. This is so that the working group can focus its > energy on completing other work. We do expect to begin work on the video > document (draft-ietf-rtcweb-video) to meet its milestone of December, but > initially without specifying which of the two codecs is the WG consensus > for MTI. > > > > When we return to the discussion, the working group chairs currently > expect to run a consensus call on support for each codec to be mandatory to > implement. This expectation may change, however, based on new information > or working group experience. > > > > If anyone has concerns about tabling this discussion until September 29, > 2014 please let us know by February 4. > > > > Thank you, > > > > Cullen, Magnus, Ted <the chairs> > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > rtcweb mailing list > > rtcweb@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb > > > -- > Surveillance is pervasive. Go Dark. > > _______________________________________________ > rtcweb mailing list > rtcweb@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb >
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs and the staw poll Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs and the staw poll Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs and the staw poll Chenxin (Xin)
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs and the staw poll Stefan HĂ„kansson LK
- [rtcweb] Video codecs and the staw poll Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs and the staw poll Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs and the staw poll Simon Pietro Romano
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs and the staw poll Victor Pascual Avila
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs and the staw poll Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs and the staw poll Mary Barnes
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs and the staw poll Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs and the staw poll Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs and the staw poll Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs and the staw poll Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs and the staw pol Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs and the staw poll OSCAR DIVORRA ESCODA
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs and the staw poll Alexandre GOUAILLARD
- [rtcweb] Video codecs and the staw poll Hervé W.
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs and the staw poll Jeremy Laurenson (jlaurens)