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Re: [rtcweb] How to multiplex between peers

Matthew Kaufman <matthew.kaufman@skype.net> Wed, 20 July 2011 23:15 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] How to multiplex between peers
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On Jul 20, 2011, at 3:31 PM, Colin Perkins wrote:

> Except that it doesn't work in all cases: please read the discussion in draft-perkins-rtpweb-rtp-usage-02. You may argue that you don't think the breakage is important, but there *is* breakage in doing this, and it is not backwards compatible.
> 

It doesn't need to be "backwards compatible" in order for two RTCWEB endpoints to communicate. And the muxing can be disabled in order to talk to a legacy endpoint.

Could we confine the claims about breakage to only ones that are NOT backwards compatibility issues?

Matthew Kaufman

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