Re: [rtcweb] Congratuiations on the Cisco announcement - but we still prefer VP8

Krasimir Kolarov <kolarov@apple.com> Thu, 07 November 2013 21:16 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Congratuiations on the Cisco announcement - but we still prefer VP8
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The date of the declaration can be seen clearly in the database - August 5, 2013


On Nov 7, 2013, at 1:13 PM, cowwoc <cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org> wrote:

> 
>     Are you implying that Google made this move *after* purchasing Motorola? If not, your statement sounds factually incorrect.
> 
> Gili
> 
> On 07/11/2013 4:10 PM, Krasimir Kolarov wrote:
>> One interesting observation from the database is that one of the most recent Type 2 (royalty bearing) declarations on the list is from a major proponent of Royalty Free coding - Motorola Mobility (which is now fully owned by Google).
>> 
>> It looks like a compelling strategy - to offer technology that you support for Royalty Free adoption, while blocking a competing technology with a Type 2 declaration.
>> 
>> Krasimir
>> 
>> On Nov 7, 2013, at 12:59 PM, Harald Alvestrand <hta@google.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> The list of declarations made against the proposed baseline document is available at the bottom of this page:
>>> 
>>> http://www.iso.org/iso/home/standards_development/governance_of_technical_work/patents.htm
>>> 
>>> For declarations against the MPEG baseline proposal, look for the number 14496-29.
>>> 
>>> For some of the declarations, the spreadsheet will tell you whether it's a Type 1 (royalty free) or Type 2 (royalty bearing) declaration. For the 3 most recent declarations in the spreadsheet, you will even find a link to the declaration itself.
>>> 
>>> Draw your own conclusions.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Monty Montgomery <xiphmont@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > In short, most MPEG members are not evil, and want the same thing as the
>>> > open source and broader communities, including royalty-free licensing.
>>> 
>>> I agree, but the structure of the MPEG is such that it only takes one
>>> (or a handful).  We've heard promises of RF baselines stretching back
>>> almost 20 years.
>>> 
>>> I agree this would be a wholly positive development, but frankly...
>>> call us when it's done.
>>> 
>>> Monty
>>> 
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