Re: [rtcweb] Platforms that support H264

Hi Eric,

In general,

  * Browsers are more likely to be open-source than applications, and
    therefore are more flexible regarding the plugin licenses that are
    acceptable.
  * Most browsers have a plug-in architecture, allowing them to download
    codecs on demand. The same is not true of most applications.

I suspect that if we find a solution that works for non-browser 
applications, it'll likely work for browsers but not necessarily the 
other way around. These are generalizations, so I expect you will find 
exceptions to the rule.

Gili

On 02/11/2013 6:18 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote:
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> On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Gili <cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org 
> <mailto:cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org>> wrote:
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>     Martin,
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>         I fully understand why Firefox would be happy but as someone
>     who plan to integrate WebRTC into a non-browser application,
>     especially on iOS, Cisco's solution simply does not work. I
>     appreciate their contribution, but again, it simply doesn't help
>     my use-case.
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> I haven't seen  you explain how your use case is different from that of
> a browser. Could you please do so?
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> -Ekr
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>     Gili
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>     On 11/2/2013 11:02 AM, Martin Thomson wrote:
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>         On 2 November 2013 07:37, cowwoc <cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org
>         <mailto:cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org>> wrote:
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>                  I can't think of a single platform that supports
>             real-time H.264
>             encoding/decoding natively today.
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>         That's a very strange way to put the question.
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>         Let me put another spin on it, and please excuse the example...
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>         Skype runs on more platforms than you might think.  Those
>         platforms
>         can all support H.264 to the extent that Skype requires.
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>         Cisco's generous offer opens almost the same capability to anyone,
>         with the caveat that some platforms currently remain closed.  Of
>         course, you could let your ideals get in the way of progress.
>          Me, I'm
>         a pragmatist.  This gift represents a great opportunity for
>         people who
>         actually care about the practical outcomes.
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>         There's been a lot of mouth-gazing of gift horses on this list of
>         late.  I sure hope that this isn't representative of the real
>         sentiment of the community.  I'd like to think that people are
>         better
>         than that.
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>         (BTW, I understand and respect Harald's position.  From where
>         he sits,
>         I'm sure that his conclusion makes perfect sense.)
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