Re: [rtcweb] Video Codec discussion in Thursday agenda slot

David Singer <singer@apple.com> Tue, 12 March 2013 18:12 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Video Codec discussion in Thursday agenda slot
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I am sorry, I don't understand.

At the last meeting, the codec discussion was deferred at the request of one company and with no reason offered.  It was delayed so late that people, such as my colleague, who had flown in for this discussion had already arrived when it was deferred.

This time, we have late-breaking news which is missing important details, warrants significant preparatory discussion before the meeting, and you have justified requests for time from multiple companies, and you go ahead?



On Mar 12, 2013, at 10:41 , Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com> wrote:

> WG,
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> We will hold the presentations and the discussion on Thursday regarding
> mandatory to implement video codec. Prior to any consensus question
> regarding the actual codec the chairs will verify consensus to ask such
> questions.
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> For the chairs
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> Magnus Westerlund
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David Singer
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