Re: [rtcweb] A plea for simplicity, marketability - and... who are we designing RTCWEB for?
Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net> Thu, 20 October 2011 14:52 UTC
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] A plea for simplicity, marketability - and... who are we designing RTCWEB for?
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2011/10/20 Olle E. Johansson <oej@edvina.net>: > 20 okt 2011 kl. 16:39 skrev Iñaki Baz Castillo: > >> 2011/10/20 Bernard Aboba <bernard_aboba@hotmail.com>: >>> the APIs should also enable media to be sent over a websocket >> >> WHAT?? >> > A more specific question: What are the use cases? > > I understand that media over TCP is used in many apps today. While media over websocket over tcp over IP sounds just a bit too much, I am very curious on the use case. There is no use case. WebSocket is NOT designed for carrying media. WebSocket is designed for sending and receiving *boundary* messages (with any application content up to the developer) over an existing TCP connection between client and server, in both directions. When a WebSocket message arrives to the browser, a JavaScript callback onmessage(data) is called, so the custom JavaScript code can read it, parse it and react according. This stuff is NOT designed for media ! Please read: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-hybi-thewebsocketprotocol-17 http://dev.w3.org/html5/websockets/#the-websocket-interface I strongly hope this WG will not waste time in discussions about "RTP over WebSocket", or it will become surrealist. Regards. -- Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net>
- Re: [rtcweb] A plea for simplicity, marketability… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] A plea for simplicity, marketability… Saúl Ibarra Corretgé
- Re: [rtcweb] A plea for simplicity, marketability… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] A plea for simplicity, marketability… Saúl Ibarra Corretgé
- [rtcweb] A plea for simplicity, marketability - a… Dan York
- Re: [rtcweb] A plea for simplicity, marketability… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] A plea for simplicity, marketability… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] A plea for simplicity, marketability… Wolfgang Beck
- Re: [rtcweb] A plea for simplicity, marketability… Aaron Clauson
- Re: [rtcweb] A plea for simplicity, marketability… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] A plea for simplicity, marketability… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] A plea for simplicity, marketability… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] A plea for simplicity, marketability… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] A plea for simplicity, marketability… Olle E. Johansson
- Re: [rtcweb] A plea for simplicity, marketability… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Single-origin and consent Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] A plea for simplicity, marketability… Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] A plea for simplicity, marketability… Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] A plea for simplicity, marketability… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] A plea for simplicity, marketability… Olle E. Johansson
- Re: [rtcweb] A plea for simplicity, marketability… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] A plea for simplicity, marketability… Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] A plea for simplicity, marketability… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] A plea for simplicity, marketability… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] A plea for simplicity, marketability… Bernard Aboba
- [rtcweb] Single-origin and consent Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Single-origin and consent Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] A plea for simplicity, marketability… Ravindran Parthasarathi
- Re: [rtcweb] A plea for simplicity, marketability… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] A plea for simplicity, marketability… Wolfgang Beck
- Re: [rtcweb] A plea for simplicity, marketability… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] A plea for simplicity, marketability… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] A plea for simplicity, marketability… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] A plea for simplicity, marketability… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] A plea for simplicity, marketability… Matthew Kaufman
- Re: [rtcweb] A plea for simplicity, marketability… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] A plea for simplicity, marketability… Wolfgang Beck
- Re: [rtcweb] A plea for simplicity, marketability… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] A plea for simplicity, marketability… Wolfgang Beck
- Re: [rtcweb] A plea for simplicity, marketability… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] A plea for simplicity, marketability… Wolfgang Beck