Re: [rtcweb] Protesting the QoS document decision
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From: "DRAGE, Keith (Keith)" <keith.drage@alcatel-lucent.com>
To: Wesley Eddy <wes@mti-systems.com>, "dcrocker@bbiw.net" <dcrocker@bbiw.net>, Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com>, Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no>, "rtcweb@ietf.org" <rtcweb@ietf.org>, "rai-ads@tools.ietf.org" <rai-ads@tools.ietf.org>, "tsv-ads@tools.ietf.org" <tsv-ads@tools.ietf.org>
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Agreed. Aside from the issue of failure to publicise the chairs actions, which the RTCWEB chairs have acknowledged, I believe the only open issue is to identify whether the transfer of work within the scope of the TSVWG leaves any work that is outside the scope of the TSVWG. Keith Drage > -----Original Message----- > From: rtcweb [mailto:rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Wesley Eddy > Sent: 20 December 2013 22:04 > To: dcrocker@bbiw.net; Magnus Westerlund; Harald Alvestrand; > rtcweb@ietf.org; rai-ads@tools.ietf.org; tsv-ads@tools.ietf.org > Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Protesting the QoS document decision > > On 12/20/2013 12:43 PM, Dave Crocker wrote: > > > > Working groups decide on what documents they adopt, within the > > constraints of their charters. To move a document from one working > > group to another requires agreement of both working groups. > AD's do > > not have final authority on this. > > > > > The document is doing things that are in TSVWG's charter and > not in RTCWEB's charter. It should not have been adopted in > RTCWEB in the first place. Moving it out corrected that mistake. > > > -- > Wes Eddy > MTI Systems > _______________________________________________ > rtcweb mailing list > rtcweb@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb >
- [rtcweb] Protesting the QoS document decision Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Protesting the QoS document decision James Polk
- Re: [rtcweb] Protesting the QoS document decision Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Protesting the QoS document decision Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] Protesting the QoS document decision Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [rtcweb] Protesting the QoS document decision Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [rtcweb] Protesting the QoS document decision Gonzalo Camarillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Protesting the QoS document decision Wesley Eddy
- Re: [rtcweb] Protesting the QoS document decision Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] Protesting the QoS document decision Gonzalo Camarillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Protesting the QoS document decision James Polk
- Re: [rtcweb] Protesting the QoS document decision Wesley Eddy
- Re: [rtcweb] Protesting the QoS document decision Subha Dhesikan (sdhesika)
- Re: [rtcweb] Protesting the QoS document decision Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [rtcweb] Protesting the QoS document decision Eggert, Lars
- Re: [rtcweb] Protesting the QoS document decision Eggert, Lars
- Re: [rtcweb] Protesting the QoS document decision Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [rtcweb] Protesting the QoS document decision Dave Crocker
- Re: [rtcweb] Protesting the QoS document decision Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Protesting the QoS document decision Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [rtcweb] Protesting the QoS document decision Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [rtcweb] Protesting the QoS document decision Dave Crocker
- Re: [rtcweb] Protesting the QoS document decision Wesley Eddy
- [rtcweb] RTCWEB milestones (was: Protesting the Q… SM
- Re: [rtcweb] Protesting the QoS document decision DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB milestones Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [rtcweb] Protesting the QoS document decision Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [rtcweb] Protesting the QoS document decision Markus.Isomaki