Re: [rtcweb] Proposed Video Selection Process

Ron <ron@debian.org> Thu, 21 November 2013 21:27 UTC

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On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 12:52:15PM -0800, Martin Thomson wrote:
> On 21 November 2013 12:48, Basil Mohamed Gohar
> <basilgohar@librevideo.org> wrote:
> > Has anyone actually objected to H.261 being the one MTI codec [...] ?
> 
> More than one person has already.
> 
> And I find the argument raised quite compelling.  It's hard to justify
> spending valuable time and resources on implementing something that
> crappy.

That argument is only 'compelling' if it can overcome the implicit
assumption it carries - that we should revert the existing consensus
that there should be a MTI codec.

If we all agree the preferred codecs have impossible IPR problems,
then the race to the bottom has been run.

There is no further distance to fall, aside from abandoning the
requirement for guaranteed interoperability.  And I'll be interested
to see what compelling argument can be made for that which doesn't
look like simply trying to completely hijack the chartered goals of
this WG and mandate the failure of this specification.


If you don't want something crappy, well, last chance to recant the
FUD about VP8 ...

  Going, going,
  Ron