Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio codecs
tom harper <tharper@logitech.com> Sun, 19 August 2012 02:29 UTC
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio codecs
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I strongly support having 722 as mandatory - interop in the enterprise will greatly benefit. Opus and g.711 are +1 Tom On 8/18/2012 11:04 AM, Richard Shockey wrote: > Even though 711 quality actually sucks. I only mention 722 ..AMR WB btw > since it's obvious that if you may want to interoperate with the several > billion mobile endpoints that may be deploying VoLTE over the next few > years. It might prove useful, unless this entire exercise is about creating > N squared silos. > > You are still going to have to define a MUST support video codec eventually > so just get on with it ..saying VP8 only is just unrealistic. > > -----Original Message----- > From: rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Jonathan Rosenberg > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 1:02 PM > To: Matthew Kaufman > Cc: Cullen Jennings (fluffy); rtcweb@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio codecs > > I'll chime in here too - it'll surprise no one that I agree Opus should be > MTI. I agree on G.711 as well, as this has realistically been the lingua > franca for voip since the very beginning. Its easy to put in, no IPR and > will help with the many interop scenarios which the market will eventually > want. Even if intermediaries are needed on the media path for other things - > like ICE interop - at least we won't need transcode. > > -Jonathan R. > > On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Matthew Kaufman > <matthew.kaufman@skype.net> wrote: >> I agree. OPUS because it will be the IETF standard for wideband audio on > the Internet, G.711 for maximum interoperability. G.722 is a reasonable > thing to put on the "SHOULD" list... there's some other good choices for the > SHOULD list, but they unfortunately come with additional IPR issues. >> Matthew Kaufman >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org] On >> Behalf Of Bernard Aboba >> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 5:42 PM >> To: rtcweb@ietf.org >> Cc: Cullen Jennings (fluffy); rtcweb@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio codecs >> >> I also support the selection of OPUS and G.711 as MTI. G.722 can be a > SHOULD; it is widely supported. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> rtcweb mailing list >> rtcweb@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb > > > -- > Jonathan Rosenberg, Ph.D. > GM Product Strategy and Research, Microsoft/Skype > jdrosen@{skype.net,jdrosen.net,microsoft.com} > http://www.jdrosen.net > _______________________________________________ > rtcweb mailing list > rtcweb@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb > > _______________________________________________ > rtcweb mailing list > rtcweb@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb > >
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Richard Shockey
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Monty Montgomery
- [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio codecs Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Richard Shockey
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Richard Shockey
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Monty Montgomery
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Lorenzo Miniero
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Matthew Kaufman
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Ken Fischer
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Basil Mohamed Gohar
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Basil Mohamed Gohar
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Richard Shockey
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Richard Shockey
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Silvia Pfeiffer
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… tom harper
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… stephane.proust
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Lishitao
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Neil Stratford
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Markus.Isomaki
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Stefan Hakansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Jean-Marc Valin
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Paul Coverdale
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Markus.Isomaki
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Stefan Hakansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Lishitao
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Olle E. Johansson
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Stefan Hakansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Markus.Isomaki
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Jean-Marc Valin
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Jean-Marc Valin
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Bernhard.Feiten
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Mandyam, Giridhar
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Randall Gellens
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Basil Mohamed Gohar
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Richard Shockey
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Randall Gellens
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Stefan Hakansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Neil Stratford
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Randall Gellens
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Timothy B. Terriberry
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Ron
- [rtcweb] Consensus Statement for Re: Confirmation… Magnus Westerlund