Re: [rtcweb] Signalling, SDP, and the way we think about interconnecting RTCWEB applications
Wolfgang <wolfgang.beck01@googlemail.com> Sun, 16 October 2011 08:39 UTC
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Signalling, SDP, and the way we think about interconnecting RTCWEB applications
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On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Roy, Radhika R USA CIV (US) <radhika.r.roy.civ@mail.mil> wrote: > Folks: > > A given codec type in known, its parameters should also be known per its specifications. So, it the negotiations between codec-types only. > > You can see how SDP is used for negotiations between different codec types using SIP. Similar mechanisms can also be used here. > > Radhika So why do we transport some codec parameters outside the media stream at all? The called device might need information about the media stream before establishing it. The server might need access to codec parameters to forward the call to the best destination: imagine a user with two RTCWEB clients, one only supports only low resolution video, the other one full HD. A high resolution video call comes in. How should the server select the called client if it doesn't have access to the media stream which carries the resolution parameters? In my model the server would know what type of call was set up as it always controls both ends of the call. If some other application controls the calling party, you need some standardized protocol like SDP. Wolfgang
- [rtcweb] Signalling, SDP, and the way we think ab… BeckW
- Re: [rtcweb] Signalling, SDP, and the way we thin… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Signalling, SDP, and the way we thin… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Signalling, SDP, and the way we thin… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [rtcweb] Signalling, SDP, and the way we thin… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Signalling, SDP, and the way we thin… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Signalling, SDP, and the way we thin… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [rtcweb] Signalling, SDP, and the way we thin… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Signalling, SDP, and the way we thin… Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] Signalling, SDP, and the way we thin… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Signalling, SDP, and the way we thin… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [rtcweb] Signalling, SDP, and the way we thin… Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] Signalling, SDP, and the way we thin… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Signalling, SDP, and the way we thin… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Signalling, SDP, and the way we thin… Neil Stratford
- Re: [rtcweb] Signalling, SDP, and the way we thin… Wolfgang
- Re: [rtcweb] Signalling, SDP, and the way we thin… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Signalling, SDP, and the way we thin… Neil Stratford
- Re: [rtcweb] Signalling, SDP, and the way we thin… Wolfgang
- Re: [rtcweb] Signalling, SDP, and the way we thin… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Signalling, SDP, and the way we thin… Neil Stratford
- Re: [rtcweb] Signalling, SDP, and the way we thin… Roy, Radhika R USA CIV (US)
- Re: [rtcweb] Signalling, SDP, and the way we thin… Stephan Wenger
- [rtcweb] VP8 and parameters (Re: Signalling, SDP,… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Signalling, SDP, and the way we thin… Dzonatas Sol
- Re: [rtcweb] Signalling, SDP, and the way we thin… Wolfgang
- Re: [rtcweb] Signalling, SDP, and the way we thin… Dzonatas Sol
- Re: [rtcweb] Signalling, SDP, and the way we thin… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Signalling, SDP, and the way we thin… Wolfgang
- Re: [rtcweb] Signalling, SDP, and the way we thin… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Signalling, SDP, and the way we thin… Wolfgang Beck
- Re: [rtcweb] Signalling, SDP, and the way we thin… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Signalling, SDP, and the way we thin… Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] Signalling, SDP, and the way we thin… Dzonatas Sol
- Re: [rtcweb] Signalling, SDP, and the way we thin… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Signalling, SDP, and the way we thin… Wolfgang Beck
- Re: [rtcweb] Signalling, SDP, and the way we thin… Cullen Jennings