Re: [rtcweb] H261/MPEG-1 video quality

cowwoc <cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org> Fri, 15 November 2013 13:47 UTC

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Magnus,

Couldn't we alter the option with H.261 to state that we're proposing an 
IPR-expired codec *like* H.261? I don't think we need to decide at this 
moment which precise codec that would be.

Gili

On 15/11/2013 2:27 AM, Magnus Westerlund wrote:
> On 2013-11-15 06:39, Monty Montgomery wrote:
>> Stephan just implied strongly they haven't, despite the 20 years.
>>
>> And, BTW, I was serious when I mentioned Theora earlier as well.
> If you want this on the list of alternatives, please send an email in
> the other thread with the MUST statement. I would also request that you
> include a reference to the codec, and any needed scoping of your proposal.
>
> Regards
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> Magnus Westerlund
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