Re: [rtcweb] Input to Video Codec Selection

Magnus Westerlund <> Tue, 05 March 2013 13:12 UTC

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Stefan and WG,

We WG chairs can't forbid people to state new things. However, our
message was a public prodding of everyone, including Google, that please
ensure that you have provided material prior to the discussion. We think
that in the interest of fairness and openness that any significant
contribution should be made before the actual discussion in the WG.

I think the below is a vary valid observation and I hope someone from
Google, like Serge can comment if any additional material will be
forthcoming. And if it will, then I request that it is provided ASAP so
that people can analyze any such information.


Magnus Westerlund
(As WG chair)

On 2013-03-03 09:44, Stefan Håkansson LK wrote:
> I can understand the logic behind not wanting any new input before
> the meeting, but at the same time we did postpone this discussion one
> meeting cycle on request by Serge [1]. In his request Serge stated
> that "Google understands that concerns have been raised within the
> IETF RTCWEB WG in regards to VP8 IPR." and "We hereby commit to
> addressing this by the next IETF meeting in Orlando. Our  proposal
> will address prevalent IPR issues."
> I have seen no such input yet, and if no new input is allowed, it
> seems like we will have the same discussion we postponed last time
> (all inputs look more or less unchanged to me). Is this the plan?
> Have the chairs reached out to Google to check the status (perhaps
> the IPR related things did encounter some delay, but will be ready
> shortly after the meeting)?
> Stefan
> [1]
> -----Original Message----- From:
> [] On Behalf Of Magnus Westerlund Sent:
> den 1 mars 2013 15:23 Cc: Subject: [rtcweb] Input to
> Video Codec Selection
> WG,
> I hope everyone, especially Google, now have provided whatever input
> they have into the Video Codec discussion and selection. It is
> important that everyone has the possibility to evaluate the input in
> good time prior to the meeting. It is especially important if one
> might require legal or other support when evaluating the proposals or
> additional information, which might apply for IPR, as an example.
> To be extremely blunt, we don't want anyone revealing new input
> material during the presentations in Orlando. These presentations is
> only intended to provide a summary of the most important aspects from
> the proponents side.
> The RTCWEB WG chairs
> Magnus Westerlund Ted Hardie Cullen Jennings
> _______________________________________________ rtcweb mailing list 


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