Re: [rtcweb] Magnus Westerlund's No Objection on charter-ietf-rtcweb-01-02: (with COMMENT)

Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> Wed, 03 February 2021 19:51 UTC

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From: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>
To: Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund=40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, "superuser@gmail.com" <superuser@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Magnus Westerlund's No Objection on charter-ietf-rtcweb-01-02: (with COMMENT)
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Hi,

In my opinion it makes no sense to publish it now, and then replace it. The draft is not part of C238, so there is no reason to "hurry". I think it should first be updated (based on the outcome of the JSEP/BUNDLE misalignment issue), and then published.

I also think it would be good if the changes are done and overseen by the WG, rather than last-minute "AUTH48 changes".

Regards,

Christer

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From: rtcweb <rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Magnus Westerlund
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Magnus Westerlund's No Objection on charter-ietf-rtcweb-01-02: (with COMMENT)

On Wed, 2021-02-03 at 07:31 -0800, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 2:47 AM Magnus Westerlund via Datatracker < 
> noreply@ietf.org> wrote:
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > --
> > COMMENT:
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > --
> > 
> > What is the plan with
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rtcweb-sdp/
> > should that also be included to be updated by this WG?
> 
> It's discussed in the charter (version -01-02) and is listed as a 
> proposed milestone.
> 

Okay, so I missed the end of the single sentence where it was mentioned:

The working group will produce updates to those two documents, and update draft-ietf-rtcweb-sdp accordingly.

I would note that this do make me ask about the intention here. So draft-ietf- rtcweb-sdp is currently an Approved AD sponsored document. So what does it mean to "update accordingly" here. Is the intention to retract the apprval and send the document to this WG for update, or to publish the current and then replace it? I don't think doing an late stage text changes even to an informal document is particular good here. So I hope you intended to give the WG formal ownership of the change and then have to run through the normal publication process for this updated document? 

From my perspective I do think you need to be a bit more verbose about this document and that the WG is chartered to take on this draft (again) or that they should do an update. 

Cheers

Magnus