Re: [rtcweb] codec and connection negotiation
Matthew Kaufman <matthew.kaufman@skype.net> Fri, 05 August 2011 18:53 UTC
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] codec and connection negotiation
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Now, to follow up on my previous message with a bit of opinion... I think we should not use SDP as the API, and we should not have the browser implementing SDP offer-answer. 1. If SDP offer-answer is all that is available to the Javascript programmer (and server programmer), it becomes very difficult to know what the full capability set is without complex probing. This significantly complicates the building of future innovative applications on top of the browser as platform. Many of the current applications that show off browser capabilities do so by using capabilities that were already present for other reasons, and we can expect the same innovation to occur here, if we provide the tools. 2. Using SDP offer-answer has the advantage of reusing all the IETF standards work that occurs to define SDP when a new codec comes along. But it also has the *disadvantage* of having to wait for the IETF to produce these standards, which may be incomplete, or unable to control parameters which are necessary for web applications. 3. Anything that is missing in SDP (example: forcing the Opus codec to "music" mode for encoding) will still need to be exposed as a Javascript API on the encoder. Thus we end up with a mix of possibly-conflicting settings that are adjusted via the explicit API and the opaque SDP API. 4. Other work in browsers (like recording camera and microphone to disk) will require the ability to directly control the encoders. If these APIs exist then there will definitely be conflicting settings. What happens if you feed in an SDP answer that requires VP8 encoding and then set the encoder to H.264 mode via the Javascript? Matthew Kaufman
- [rtcweb] codec and connection negotiation Matthew Kaufman
- Re: [rtcweb] codec and connection negotiation Matthew Kaufman
- Re: [rtcweb] codec and connection negotiation Parthasarathi R (partr)
- Re: [rtcweb] codec and connection negotiation Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] codec and connection negotiation Sohel Khan
- Re: [rtcweb] codec and connection negotiation Henry Sinnreich
- Re: [rtcweb] codec and connection negotiation Sohel Khan
- Re: [rtcweb] codec and connection negotiation Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] codec and connection negotiation Colin Perkins
- Re: [rtcweb] codec and connection negotiation Parthasarathi R (partr)
- Re: [rtcweb] codec and connection negotiation Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] codec and connection negotiation Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [rtcweb] codec and connection negotiation Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [rtcweb] codec and connection negotiation Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] codec and connection negotiation Henry Sinnreich
- Re: [rtcweb] codec and connection negotiation Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] codec and connection negotiation Markus.Isomaki
- Re: [rtcweb] codec and connection negotiation Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [rtcweb] codec and connection negotiation Randell Jesup