Re: [rtcweb] Virnetx IPR

Silvia,

     Something doesn't make sense. It's my understanding that Facetime 
involves direct video chat connections (no VPN) and yet Apple was found 
to be infringing Virnetx patents.

     Quoting 
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/08/report-after-patent-loss-apple-tweaks-facetime-and-logs-500000-complaints/:

Both sides in the litigation admit that if Apple routes its FaceTime 
calls through relay servers, it will avoid infringing the VirnetX 
patents. Once Apple was found to be infringing---and realized it could 
end up paying an ongoing royalty for using FaceTime---*the company 
redesigned the system so that all FaceTime calls would rely on relay 
servers. Lease believes the switch happened in April*.

     This makes me believe the patent affect direct p2p connections.

Gili

On 01/09/2013 6:38 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:
> FAIK it's unrelated: WebRTC is not using a vpn to establish
> connections. But IANAL. :-)
> Silvia.
>
> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 5:44 AM, cowwoc <cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>      Is WebRTC affected by this?
>>
>> http://apple.slashdot.org/story/13/09/01/1233230/apple-now-relaying-all-facetime-calls-due-to-lost-patent-dispute
>> and
>> http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2010/08/virnetx-files-vpn-patent-suit-against-apple-cisco-nec/
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Gili
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