Re: [rtcweb] draft-sipdoc-rtcweb-open-wire-protocol-00 (Open In-The-Wire Protocol for RTC-Web)

Cullen Jennings <fluffy@cisco.com> Mon, 31 October 2011 00:06 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] draft-sipdoc-rtcweb-open-wire-protocol-00 (Open In-The-Wire Protocol for RTC-Web)
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On Oct 27, 2011, at 11:09 , Hadriel Kaplan wrote:

> One process-based concern about making requirement 4 a WG requirement: you can't actually do SIP over Websocket with a "pure SIP network" until we get Websocket into a SIP-extending RFC as a new transport type.  I wouldn't want to hold up WebRTC docs becoming RFCs, waiting for the DISPATCH and probable SIPCORE process to make a websocket SIP transport into a RFC.  I *want* to add Websocket as a SIP transport type, but it's not actually as trivial as one would think.

One random idea … say that websockets was a protocol you could use to connect to a TURN server and then the TURN sever could send UPD or TCP SIP. That might be easier to deploy … not sure this is a good idea … just a random idea I thought I would mention.