Re: [rtcweb] x264 vs OpenH264 (Was: On the topic of MTI video codecs)

Emil Ivov <emcho@jitsi.org> Fri, 01 November 2013 17:19 UTC

Return-Path: <emcho@sip-communicator.org>
X-Original-To: rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B74F511E8237 for <rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 1 Nov 2013 10:19:11 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.755
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.755 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.222, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tSPqI3HAUvrC for <rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 1 Nov 2013 10:19:07 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail-pa0-f42.google.com (mail-pa0-f42.google.com [209.85.220.42]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0421711E8233 for <rtcweb@ietf.org>; Fri, 1 Nov 2013 10:19:05 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by mail-pa0-f42.google.com with SMTP id kp14so4332505pab.15 for <rtcweb@ietf.org>; Fri, 01 Nov 2013 10:19:04 -0700 (PDT)
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=XjdGxGlSbg64midGsvWAA1l98r1zncxvlVYqNp+h0Yk=; b=OaWeB8yY5vKq8rUM8dy4gBNHOtePV9nODoULGNrj1ZkcpTNBl/HMOB5a8mhTvJ1Aw5 tOXf8FDGid0gAwpAAwPLPicxCTH/bGd1W2Hhg5W4IfwRkOGt7crbwqsWmeWsKqyg/we0 9HAGuQsaPHUYQqJeHoCHGw8lzoU+M39/B60JCh0wrQAaJCKzZogXefS1nWhgMOh72rzs sOVwex6nSDBlLmhMcjzb/Lq1KJe4hQe3xgfgJF+BT7062WX4lRjs2Ppia37TUkBS7wk2 UapL3iEihSJZZ+qB9NDYYCbO3tu3NAgdDOViwMGA2rCPvPt/xzedtMrIy1VGkO2+L/B4 WNkQ==
X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlootj4Ey4gVKSXxw7zIASSV7T0M/DLw9AUx6JqAqnV4PSH+IhHmPy5V/6MFRyUl3yajAVd
X-Received: by 10.67.4.227 with SMTP id ch3mr4306161pad.74.1383326344786; Fri, 01 Nov 2013 10:19:04 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail-pb0-x22e.google.com (mail-pb0-x22e.google.com [2607:f8b0:400e:c01::22e]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id xv2sm11938704pbb.39.2013.11.01.10.19.04 for <rtcweb@ietf.org> (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 01 Nov 2013 10:19:04 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by mail-pb0-f46.google.com with SMTP id un4so4559848pbc.19 for <rtcweb@ietf.org>; Fri, 01 Nov 2013 10:19:04 -0700 (PDT)
X-Received: by 10.68.189.229 with SMTP id gl5mr2479825pbc.195.1383326344325; Fri, 01 Nov 2013 10:19:04 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Received: by 10.66.191.163 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Nov 2013 10:18:44 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <CABkgnnWDc8BvBCC6258B2JNeA8v7D6-z7OKJNCyw68ooEK7iPA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPvvaaLwacOgQq5O8t0bMCJJfKTHbJM9RnawgXLJpKiADtsi2Q@mail.gmail.com> <5273D5C8.304@bbs.darktech.org> <5273D848.2060608@makk.es> <5273DEEE.4000302@gmail.com> <CABkgnnWDc8BvBCC6258B2JNeA8v7D6-z7OKJNCyw68ooEK7iPA@mail.gmail.com>
From: Emil Ivov <emcho@jitsi.org>
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 18:18:44 +0100
Message-ID: <CAPvvaaJMwWHsfhJJbY-Ld488cHDY93TsBWMgV5=Ho3thN3-wtw@mail.gmail.com>
To: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Cc: "rtcweb@ietf.org" <rtcweb@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [rtcweb] x264 vs OpenH264 (Was: On the topic of MTI video codecs)
X-BeenThere: rtcweb@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: Real-Time Communication in WEB-browsers working group list <rtcweb.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/rtcweb>, <mailto:rtcweb-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rtcweb>
List-Post: <mailto:rtcweb@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:rtcweb-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb>, <mailto:rtcweb-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 17:19:11 -0000

On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 1 November 2013 10:03, Daniel-Constantin Mierla <miconda@gmail.com> wrote:
>> So I, as user, I take Firefox from Mozilla site, then when I need to do
>> webrtc, my browser will download (first time) and use the h264 plugin.
>> Because I don't distribute further the two, I don't see any restriction from
>> gpl here. That's my understanding.
>
> I think that you should read the GPL again and maybe consult a lawyer.

We may both need to do this but that doesn't mean we can't have a
(supposedly) informed opinion without consulting ;)

>  It is my understanding that this would expose the browser to the GPL
> copyleft terms.

It is my understanding that this would have happened if they were to
distribute x264 together with the browser, which is not the case here.

There are already a number of Firefox plugins out there that are
distributed under GPL. Surely you are not saying that FF could somehow
get in trouble for being able to run those?

Emil

--
https://jitsi.org