Re: [rtcweb] Proposal to break the ICE impasse

Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net> Tue, 29 January 2019 17:51 UTC

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From: Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net>
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 18:50:48 +0100
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Proposal to break the ICE impasse
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On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 at 18:46, Nils Ohlmeier <nohlmeier@mozilla.com> wrote:
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> What I don’t quite understand here: 1-4 with the initial connection will use UDP in the protocol field. Only the subsequent re-offer from step 5 on would use TCP in the protocol field. How come that 1-4 works, but 5 does not?

The sysadmin realized about dangerous and suspicious UDP traffic so
changed the firewall rules. He also blocked ICMP (for security!!!) but
that's not a problem because static constexpr uint16_t MTU = 1200.

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Iñaki Baz Castillo
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