Re: [rtcweb] No a=ice-lite in JSEP-04

Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net> Thu, 03 October 2013 17:06 UTC

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From: Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net>
To: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] No a=ice-lite in JSEP-04
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Agreed. This is not a HOWTO but a set of specs.

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Iñaki Baz Castillo
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El 03/10/2013 18:46, "Christer Holmberg" <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>
escribió:

>  Hi,
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> Do we really need to say more than the ICE RFC already says? I think it
> explains when ICE-lite is appropriate, and when it isn't.
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> Regards,
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> Christer
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> *From:* rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org [rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org] on behalf of
> Matthew Kaufman [matthew@matthew.at]
> *Sent:* Thursday, 03 October 2013 7:01 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: [rtcweb] No a=ice-lite in JSEP-04
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>   On 10/3/2013 7:53 AM, Adam Roach wrote:
> > On Oct 3, 2013, at 9:31, Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net> wrote:
> >
> >> If I implement my own WebRTC stack in a smartphone app, am I disallowed
> to do ICE-lite in my side??
> > I would hope so, yes. The chance that your smartphone app would have any
> hope if working if it did ice lite are as close to zero as to make no
> difference.
> >
> > The fact that implementors apparently don't see this as an obvious fact
> tells me that we need pretty strong language around this prohibition, and
> "browser" is clearly too narrow a scope.
> >
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> The spec should say that:
> 1. The prohibition on sending media prior to completing a STUN
> connectivity test is a MUST
> 2. A full ICE implementation is a SHOULD
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> If I'm building a system with clients at one end and gateways with
> public addresses at the other, a full ICE implementation isn't required
> anywhere in order to make calls through those gateways. But keeping the
> browser from being able to spew media at something that hasn't consented
> *is* required.
>
> Matthew Kaufman
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