[rtcweb] clarifications on current discussions - re: confirming sense of the room: mti codec

Daniel-Constantin Mierla <miconda@gmail.com> Tue, 16 December 2014 19:39 UTC

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Subject: [rtcweb] clarifications on current discussions - re: confirming sense of the room: mti codec
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With many forks of the thread and various opinions, can anyone clarify
the expectation of these discussions. Ideally will be the WG chairs
stating what is the role of the current discussions, specially to the
initial thread with the subject 'confirming sense of the room: mti
codec' started by Sean Turner - link to archive:

   - http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rtcweb/current/msg13696.html

My understanding was that it is about clarifying what happened during
the sessions in Honolulu, not a call on consensus for the proposal. I
get the feeling that many understood it differently, being the call on
consensus for video MTI codecs. I saw many people simply stating there
position in replies to this thread, which is ok if they want to
say/reiterate it, but not addressing any of the points set for
discussion by Sean.

For a call on consensus I would expect to be with a explicit subject,
including or pointing to the (draft of) text to be adopted.

Which side got it wrong here?

Thanks,
Daniel

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