Re: [rtcweb] Requiring ICE for RTC calls

Roman Shpount <roman@telurix.com> Tue, 27 September 2011 15:49 UTC

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> Not a _single_one_ of those mobile phones is running SIP/RTP or supports
> G.711 - if you follow that argument,
> we should be requiring GSM610 support and deriving a version of the GSM
> media protocol.
>
> Tim.


It does not matter what they run. Quite a few of them do not run GSM, but I
can cost effectively call every one of them using SIP/G.711, and that's what
very important. It will take some amount of time to upgrade this
infrastructure to support SRTP and ICE.
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Roman Shpount