Re: [rtcweb] Let's define the purpose of WebRTC

Ravindran Parthasarathi <pravindran@sonusnet.com> Wed, 09 November 2011 02:58 UTC

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From: Ravindran Parthasarathi <pravindran@sonusnet.com>
To: Cullen Jennings <fluffy@cisco.com>, "Olle E. Johansson" <oej@edvina.net>
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Let's define the purpose of WebRTC
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Cullen,

As I mentioned in http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rtcweb/current/msg02674.html, below comment #2 is not valid in IETF. 

But I'm interested in your opinion as Enterprise UC expert on my 1st comment:

"1) Security could be in the lower layer itself (IPsec, VPN, private MPLS cloud). For Enterprise-only-WebRTC application (no federation & no interop), there is no need of security for specific application like WebRTC as it is ensured in the infrastructure. WebRTC security will be duplicated for these infrastructure and may lead to double encryption unnecessarily."

Thanks
Partha

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Cullen Jennings [mailto:fluffy@cisco.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 9:29 PM
>To: Olle E. Johansson
>Cc: Ravindran Parthasarathi; <rtcweb@ietf.org>
>Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Let's define the purpose of WebRTC
>
>
>On Nov 8, 2011, at 7:58 AM, Olle E. Johansson wrote:
>
>>>
>>> 2) Being in India, I'm interested in avoiding Government restriction
>on WebRTC proposal (Thanks to Tim for pointing this). I may not surprise
>to see that WebRTC mechanism is banned in India because intelligent
>agency struggles to break the key in each terrorist WebRTC site.
>(http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/235639/india_wants_to_int
>ercept_skype_google_communications.html)
>> That is an interesting objection. I don't think SRTP by default is the
>problem here. In the case where you need lawful interception in the
>application,
>> the server needs to route the calls through an RTCweb b2b media
>server.
>
>I think the situation in India is a taxiation not encryption issue.
>Partha and I can do VoIP between Canada and India fully encrypted no
>problem - in fact we have a dial plan set up specifically so I can do
>that with him. The issue is a taxation issue. If we want to be able to
>connect that voip server to the PSTN in a way that it becomes what the
>regulators in India consider a telephone service, then we need
>permission to effectively be an indian telco. Right now I can make a
>full SRTP encrypted conversation with between my IP phones and Partha's
>but I don't think Partha can use his IP phone to access one the the PSTN
>GWs outside India.
>
>Anyways, I will remind people of RAVEN http://www.rfc-
>editor.org/rfc/rfc2804.txt
>