Re: [rtcweb] ~"I'd love it if patents evaporated...If not now, when"

"Cullen Jennings (fluffy)" <fluffy@cisco.com> Wed, 13 November 2013 23:54 UTC

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From: "Cullen Jennings (fluffy)" <fluffy@cisco.com>
To: John Leslie <john@jlc.net>
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On Nov 13, 2013, at 9:55 AM, John Leslie <john@jlc.net>; wrote:

>  Both H.264 and VP8 deserve "SHOULD implement" status.

Just out of curiosity, could you say a bit more about what you see as the difference between MAY, SHOULD, and MUST in this context?