Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCWeb

"Richard Shockey" <> Tue, 03 December 2013 20:52 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCWeb
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Well I think we need to convene the Supreme Court of Protocol Engineering
Standards ..aka SCOPES.

Use the noncom process to empanel a tribunal of 9 individuals who have never
ever subscribed to a RAI list.  That might be hard..I admit. 

We have the briefs... we just need oral arguments.  London ... black robes.
Or at least black t shirts.

Then an impartial verdict can be rendered and we can get on with the rest of
our lives. 

Of course any resemblance to the Scopes trial in Tennessee would be purely

I want to do the ..

"Oyez! Oyez! Oyez! All persons having business before the <fill in the
blank> , of the Supreme Court of Protocol Engineering Standards, are
admonished to draw near and give their attention, for the Court is now
sitting.  IPv6 forever..."

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From: rtcweb [] On Behalf Of Sam Hartman
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To: Ron
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCWeb

>>>>> "Ron" == Ron  <> writes:

    Ron>  2. Can anybody show a sustainable objection for why we _can't_
    Ron> use H.261.

    Ron>    If they can, we're probably doomed.  If they can't we have
    Ron> an initial choice for MTI.

This is a fine approach, but you also need to get consensus that
least-objectionable-choice is a good decision mechanism.
That doesn't follow directly from we want an MTI codec.

If you think you can get consensus behind the process you propose then go
for it.
However don't skip important steps.
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