Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCWeb
"Richard Shockey" <richard@shockey.us> Tue, 03 December 2013 20:52 UTC
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCWeb
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Well I think we need to convene the Supreme Court of Protocol Engineering Standards ..aka SCOPES. Use the noncom process to empanel a tribunal of 9 individuals who have never ever subscribed to a RAI list. That might be hard..I admit. We have the briefs... we just need oral arguments. London ... black robes. Or at least black t shirts. Then an impartial verdict can be rendered and we can get on with the rest of our lives. Of course any resemblance to the Scopes trial in Tennessee would be purely coincidental. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scopes_Trial I want to do the .. "Oyez! Oyez! Oyez! All persons having business before the <fill in the blank> , of the Supreme Court of Protocol Engineering Standards, are admonished to draw near and give their attention, for the Court is now sitting. IPv6 forever..." -----Original Message----- From: rtcweb [mailto:rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Sam Hartman Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 5:11 PM To: Ron Cc: IETF Discussion; Michael Richardson; rtcweb@ietf.org; Dave CROCKER; Eric Burger; rtcweb-chairs@tools.ietf.org Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCWeb >>>>> "Ron" == Ron <ron@debian.org> writes: Ron> 2. Can anybody show a sustainable objection for why we _can't_ Ron> use H.261. Ron> If they can, we're probably doomed. If they can't we have Ron> an initial choice for MTI. This is a fine approach, but you also need to get consensus that least-objectionable-choice is a good decision mechanism. That doesn't follow directly from we want an MTI codec. If you think you can get consensus behind the process you propose then go for it. However don't skip important steps. _______________________________________________ rtcweb mailing list rtcweb@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb
- Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCW… Ted Lemon
- Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCW… Ted Lemon
- Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCW… cowwoc
- Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCW… Dave Crocker
- Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCW… Eliot Lear
- Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCW… Ted Lemon
- Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCW… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCW… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCW… Ted Lemon
- Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCW… Ron
- Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCW… Michael Richardson
- Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCW… Maik Merten
- Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCW… Roger Jørgensen
- Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCW… Roberto Peon
- Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCW… cowwoc
- Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCW… Leon Geyser
- Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCW… Basil Mohamed Gohar
- Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCW… Mary Barnes
- Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCW… Bjoern Hoehrmann
- Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCW… Basil Mohamed Gohar
- Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCW… Bjoern Hoehrmann
- Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCW… Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCW… Silvia Pfeiffer
- Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCW… Bjoern Hoehrmann
- Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCW… Stephan Wenger
- Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCW… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCW… cowwoc
- Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCW… Basil Mohamed Gohar
- Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCW… Bjoern Hoehrmann
- Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCW… Max Jonas Werner
- Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCW… John Leslie
- Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCW… cowwoc
- Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCW… cowwoc
- Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCW… Dave Crocker
- Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCW… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCW… Sam Hartman
- Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCW… Richard Shockey
- Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCW… David Singer
- Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCW… Maik Merten
- Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCW… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCW… Silvia Pfeiffer
- Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCW… Randell Jesup