Re: [rtcweb] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-uberti-rtcweb-rfc8829bis-00.txt

Roman Shpount <roman@telurix.com> Sun, 11 July 2021 03:45 UTC

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Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2021 23:45:26 -0400
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-uberti-rtcweb-rfc8829bis-00.txt
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On Sat, Jul 10, 2021 at 11:35 PM Justin Uberti <justin@uberti.name> wrote:

> (To be clear, m= sections that are bundled will continue to be bundled and
> will not participate in the restart.)
>

This is what I thought.

How would one unbundle them if an offer needs to be generated for 3PCC
(like an offer in response to an empty INVITE)? There is the iceRestart
option for ICE to do this. Is there a need for something similar for the
bundle to do the same thing? Please see draft-ietf-mmusic-rfc8843bis-04
section 7.6 (
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-mmusic-rfc8843bis-04.html#section-7.6)
for more details.

Please note that in the case of 3PCC an offer within an existing session
for one call leg would be the initial offer for another call leg. After the
latest change, an offer within the existing session is no longer a valid
initial offer.

Thank You,
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Roman Shpount