Re: [rtcweb] Strawman for how to prevent voice-hammer without ICE

[Hadriel Kaplan <[e-mail]>]

On Jul 28, 2011, at 8:10 AM, Elwell, John wrote:

> [JRE] The problem with requiring continued RTP receipt (or even ANY RTP receipt) is sessions where RTP is one-way, e.g., when mic muted, camera off. With many asymmetric possibilities coming out of the CLUE work, this could be a problem, although it perhaps goes away if everything is multiplexed onto the same port. It depends whether we can expect all legacy devices to behave in a way that would make this work.

Yes, but they don't turn off RTCP (assuming they do RTCP).  I'm not suggesting that it's a 1:1 mechanism of receipt/send, nor that it even be very dynamic/real-time.  But sure there will be some cases that it won't work.  But that's no worse than the current state of things, since it won't work to begin with for such devices if ICE is mandated.  We can't achieve 100% interop regardless - I'm just trying for as much as possible.

With regards to CLUE, I don't consider their devices "legacy".  They'll be upgrading to handle CLUE's final spec, so they can be "redeemed".

-hadriel