Re: [rtcweb] On the topic of MTI video codecs
Cullen Jennings <fluffy@iii.ca> Fri, 01 November 2013 15:56 UTC
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] On the topic of MTI video codecs
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On Nov 1, 2013, at 9:14 AM, Emil Ivov <emcho@jitsi.org> wrote: > On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 3:27 PM, DRAGE, Keith (Keith) > <keith.drage@alcatel-lucent.com> wrote: >> >> That ownership means they are also take responsibility for any of the liabilities arising >> from defective code they so distribute. I see no reason why Cisco would want to do >> that under anything but a controlled evironment, which would have its own set of >> non-trivial costs. > > They could have the same by distributing x264 binaries that they have > compiled by themselves. > > One of the things in the Cisco grand, that sound a bit incoherent to > me is their declared will on building a healthy open source community > around their implementation. Specifically, what baffles me is that > there is already a very well oiled implementation that does a lot more > than just baseline. That implementation already has a vibrant > community, significant popularity and, again, it sounds like it would > be considerably superior to what Cisco are planning on rolling out in > OpenH264. > > In addition to wondering at the pure waste of resources (with a casual > reference to NIH), potential contributors could legitimately ask "why > would we contribute to your project when you made the exact opposite > choice when faced with the decision?". > > Emil We considered just using x264 (I like x264 myself) that but Mozilla told us it would not work for them because it is GPL.
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