Re: [rtcweb] Proposed Video Selection Process

Maik Merten <maikmerten@googlemail.com> Thu, 21 November 2013 21:33 UTC

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My understanding is that WebRTC is not a browser-only thing. Also: Just 
because Mozilla may have found a way to sidestep the H.264 licensing 
issues with the help of Cisco, this doesn't mean this "fix" applies 
everywhere. For example, is the blob acceptable for Iceweasel? And what 
do the limited distribution rights of OpenH264 mean regarding system 
administration (e.g., replicating machines with disk images)?

Maik

Am 21.11.2013 22:14, schrieb Eric Rescorla:
> Agreed.
>
> To take a not-so-random example, given that Firefox will soon
> support both H.264 and VP8, what additional implementations
> will it be able to talk to if it does H.261?
>
> -Ekr
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> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Martin Thomson
> <martin.thomson@gmail.com <mailto:martin.thomson@gmail.com>> wrote:
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>     On 21 November 2013 12:48, Basil Mohamed Gohar
>     <basilgohar@librevideo.org <mailto:basilgohar@librevideo.org>> wrote:
>      > Has anyone actually objected to H.261 being the one MTI codec [...] ?
>
>     More than one person has already.
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>     And I find the argument raised quite compelling.  It's hard to justify
>     spending valuable time and resources on implementing something that
>     crappy.
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