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Re: [rtcweb] Congratuiations on the Cisco announcement - but we still prefer VP8

cowwoc <cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org> Thu, 07 November 2013 21:13 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Congratuiations on the Cisco announcement - but we still prefer VP8
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     Are you implying that Google made this move *after* purchasing 
Motorola? If not, your statement sounds factually incorrect.

Gili

On 07/11/2013 4:10 PM, Krasimir Kolarov wrote:
> One interesting observation from the database is that one of the most 
> recent Type 2 (royalty bearing) declarations on the list is from a 
> major proponent of Royalty Free coding - Motorola Mobility (which is 
> now fully owned by Google).
>
> It looks like a compelling strategy - to offer technology that you 
> support for Royalty Free adoption, while blocking a competing 
> technology with a Type 2 declaration.
>
> Krasimir
>
> On Nov 7, 2013, at 12:59 PM, Harald Alvestrand <hta@google.com 
> <mailto:hta@google.com>> wrote:
>
>> The list of declarations made against the proposed baseline document 
>> is available at the bottom of this page:
>>
>> http://www.iso.org/iso/home/standards_development/governance_of_technical_work/patents.htm
>>
>> For declarations against the MPEG baseline proposal, look for the 
>> number 14496-29.
>>
>> For some of the declarations, the spreadsheet will tell you whether 
>> it's a Type 1 (royalty free) or Type 2 (royalty bearing) declaration. 
>> For the 3 most recent declarations in the spreadsheet, you will even 
>> find a link to the declaration itself.
>>
>> Draw your own conclusions.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Monty Montgomery <xiphmont@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:xiphmont@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     > In short, most MPEG members are not evil, and want the same
>>     thing as the
>>     > open source and broader communities, including royalty-free
>>     licensing.
>>
>>     I agree, but the structure of the MPEG is such that it only takes one
>>     (or a handful).  We've heard promises of RF baselines stretching back
>>     almost 20 years.
>>
>>     I agree this would be a wholly positive development, but frankly...
>>     call us when it's done.
>>
>>     Monty
>>
>>
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