Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-transports-00.txt)

Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com> Fri, 30 August 2013 06:00 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-transports-00.txt)
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WG,

The new mailing list is a non-wg mailing list. It will be a good place
to discuss and resolve issues around any proposal. The outcome of such
discussion in form of documents still needs to be handled through the WG
process. Which WG that is will depended on the content of a particular
document. Clearly documents that falls within this WG's charter will be
handled here.

Cheers

Magnus

On 2013-08-29 18:51, Bernard Aboba wrote:
> On Aug 29, 2013, at 8:11, "Mary Barnes" <mary.ietf.barnes@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> [MB] So I missed the subtlety in Cullen's initial post that the
>> expectation is that the decision whether or not to accept your
>> draft is being made on a non-WG mailing list.  I don't think that's
>> the right thing to do.   I can agree that folks on pntaw can make a
>> recommendation to RTCWEB, but that needs to be fully documented and
>> then the decision to adopt a document  for the WG deliverable
>> should be made on the WG mailing list. Not everyone on the RTCWEB
>> mailing list will subscribe to pntaw, so I can't see how a decision
>> on behalf of the WG can be made on a non-WG mailing list. [/MB]
> 
> [BA] I can certainly understand the desire to create a space where
> NAT/Firewall issues can be discussed, free of the high volume of
> other traffic on the RTCWEB list. However, with respect to decisions,
> this seems more akin to a Design Team effort which is brought back to
> a WG than an autonomous group with its own decision making
> capability. Ultimately the recommendations developed on this list
> need to be supported in WebRTC implementations if they are to have
> meaning. RTCWEB WG is probably the best group to determine consensus
> for that.
> 
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