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Re: [rtcweb] ~"I'd love it if patents evaporated...If not now, when"

Philipp Hancke <fippo@goodadvice.pages.de> Thu, 14 November 2013 07:05 UTC

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> Okay, so I stand corrected (thank you for pointing this out).

heh, I'm always surprised by how many people are completly unaware that 
the innovations webrtc brings aren't new at all.

> So, I guess my new argument is: WebRTC shouldn't support any less than
> Flash ;)

That's a long list of advanced features. I'd leave things like building 
an optimized overlay to the application layer however. Hopefully a 
specification of the RTMFP groups stuff will appear as an internet draft 
so people don't start reinventing that wheel, too.

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