Re: [rtcweb] ~"I'd love it if patents evaporated...If not now, when"

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14 nov 2013 kl. 20:42 skrev "Jonathan Rosenberg" <<>>:

An important drawback of H.261 as MTI is interop with existing installed base. Very old conferencing systems and products may still have it since its easier to keep the code than delete it, but new platforms in the last few years will not have H.261.

I also disagree with the assertion that H.261 video is better than audio only. Video quality matters and I believe the higher quality we've been able to achieve in recent years due to the combo of better tech (ala H.264) along with faster networks is a material factor in the acceptance of video by end users. I think folks writing the apps should decide whether lousy video is good enough, and for business usage the answer is no.

Finally, don't overestimate the typical upstream bandwidth that is available to users across the Internet. Many of us here on this list probably have nice speedy high speed connections (I have fiber with 85/35 service) and that is not the norm for the rest of the world.

And if we consider cellular access to Internet, upstream bandwidth may be even more limited. An MTI making mobile WEBRTC difficult is not easy to embrace wholeheartedly considering we already have it WEBRTC in some mobile browsers.

On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 5:08 AM, Silvia Pfeiffer <<>> wrote:
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Philipp Hancke
<<>> wrote:
>> Okay, so I stand corrected (thank you for pointing this out).
> heh, I'm always surprised by how many people are completly unaware that the
> innovations webrtc brings aren't new at all.

Right. HTML is just another word processing format, too. :-)
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