Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (adding multiple sources without encoding them in SDP)

Peter Thatcher <pthatcher@google.com> Wed, 03 July 2013 21:11 UTC

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From: Peter Thatcher <pthatcher@google.com>
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 14:10:27 -0700
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (adding multiple sources without encoding them in SDP)
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The more I think about it, the more I think I'll refrain from posting what
I need.  I don't want to make this API just for myself.  I want to make it
for all the developers that are currently using it and the those that will
use it in the future, so I think we should focus on them first.   Perhaps
if we use their input and begin incorporating it into the API, I can
provide secondary input to refine what we work on, but I'd like the primary
input to be from other developers.

I don't want to make the mistake of building an API just for myself and
leaving the developers suffering because I over-focused on myself.   To
avoid that, I think I'll focus on them first.


On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
<fluffy@cisco.com>wrote:

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> On Jul 3, 2013, at 12:34 PM, Peter Thatcher <pthatcher@google.com>; wrote:
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> > And I could give a very long list of things, but I'll continue to keep
> myself disqualified :).
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> >
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> Please bring up the long list now - later just delays the discussion …
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