Re: [rtcweb] Video codec proposals due October 15th, 2012
"Richard Shockey" <richard@shockey.us> Sun, 19 August 2012 18:49 UTC
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Video codec proposals due October 15th, 2012
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We have heard both voices. The two camps are approximately of the same strength. Even when looking at browser market share, neither camp is an overwhelming "winner". Which is why I suggested in Vancouver that it may be time to follow the WhatWG and W3C's lead and leave the mandatory video codec selection to the browser vendors, not to a standards community that, as this discussion shows again and again, is ill-prepared to deal with commercial realities. Leaving it to the browser vendors knowing that, at least initially, we may have interop problems. [RS> ] I suggest that this is not a can you can kick down the road indefinitely. At some point we will have to make a decision since the ultimate goal is a globally interoperable service. I said in Vancouver that it is unacceptable to allow the commercial considerations of an industry operating under one business model (for example open source), to block standards development going in a certain direction, if there are others operating under another business model (close source and $$$ for licensing) and they want a different direction. I will continue to say so. And will object quite noisily if such an argument would be decisive in the IETF's decision making process, one way or another. > >> H 264 since it is nearly universally deployed. > >You've lost me here. I can't use it. Oh sure, I have the code-- I'm >just not allowed to do anything with it, and MPEG-LA won't sell me a >license because I don't track downstream. So start tracking downstream. Your business model does not allow for it? Change it! > >Monty >Xiph.Org >_______________________________________________ >rtcweb mailing list >rtcweb@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb > _______________________________________________ rtcweb mailing list rtcweb@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb
- [rtcweb] Video codec proposals due October 15th, … Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codec proposals due October 15… Richard Shockey
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codec proposals due October 15… Monty Montgomery
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codec proposals due October 15… Monty Montgomery
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codec proposals due October 15… Stephan Wenger
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codec proposals due October 15… Monty Montgomery
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codec proposals due October 15… Richard Shockey
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codec proposals due October 15… Monty Montgomery
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codec proposals due October 15… Lorenzo Miniero
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codec proposals due October 15… Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codec proposals due October 15… Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codec proposals due October 15… Markus.Isomaki
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codec proposals due October 15… Ted Hardie