Re: [rtcweb] On the topic of MTI video codecs

"Cullen Jennings (fluffy)" <fluffy@cisco.com> Wed, 30 October 2013 21:40 UTC

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From: "Cullen Jennings (fluffy)" <fluffy@cisco.com>
To: Leon Geyser <lgeyser@gmail.com>
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On Oct 30, 2013, at 12:20 PM, Leon Geyser <lgeyser@gmail.com> wrote:

> Unfortunately like Jonathan pointed out H.264 will only be able to be used royalty free on certain(most popular) platforms.
> To be able to avoid negotiation failure we need a MTI codec that every potential now/future browser would be able to implement freely.
> I like what Cisco did, but the solution seems a bit half-baked.
> 

I think that Mozilla put it pretty nicely in their blog. What this annoucement gives us is not a perfect world. Mozilla is working towards a better future but in the mean time, this is the best thing we could possibly figure out on how to make the internet today be the best it can be for users.