Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-stun-consent-freshness
"Parthasarathi R" <partha@parthasarathi.co.in> Wed, 20 August 2014 16:37 UTC
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-stun-consent-freshness
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Hi Muthu, I agree with Harald that WebRTC endpoint & WebRTC gateway may implement ice-lite and so, there is no need to send consent check. IIUC, the intention of the draft is to mention that Full ICE supporting WebRTC entities MUST support consent check. I think that the following changes will be sufficient for the below comment: 1) WebRTC endpoint & WebRTC implementation replaced by WebRTC devices. Please note that WebRTC browser is a webrtc device but not the other way around. 2) Add the statement that Full ICE supporting WebRTC entities MUST support consent freshness. This statements will be useful for WebRTC Endpoint or WebRTC gateway which supports Full ICE. Thanks Partha From: rtcweb [mailto:rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Harald Alvestrand Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 1:14 PM To: rtcweb@ietf.org Subject: Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-stun-consent-freshness On 08/20/2014 06:09 AM, Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal wrote: I believe draft-ietf-rtcweb-stun-consent-freshness deals with the WebRTC browser. A WebRTC device (eg. a mobile phone) on the other hand, could run a WebRTC browser and a JS and perform consent. Similarly, a WebRTC endpoint (whatever that gets defined as) might also perform consent, while a WebRTC gateway might not, and how consent applies to those should get specified in the document(s) that define those requirements (note: the gateway referred to in draft-ietf-rtcweb-stun-consent-freshness is any SIP gateway). Note: In terms of conformance requirements, "might" and "might not" are completely equivalent (2119 style: MAY - there is no MAY NOT). So, draft-ietf-rtcweb-stun-consent-freshness should just replace WebRTC endpoint and WebRTC implementation with WebRTC browser, IMHO. Muthu On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> wrote: Hi, The draft says: “WebRTC endpoints are required to support full ICE as specified in section 3.4 of [I-D. ietf-rtcweb-transports]. However, when WebRTC endpoints interwork with other endpoints that support only ICE-lite (e.g., gateways) those endpoints will not generate consent checks, but just respond to consent checks they receive.” The draft also talks about “WebRTC implementations” and “WebRTC browsers”. We need to make sure that the terminology is aligned with draft-ietf-rtcweb-overview (for example, draft-ietf-rtcweb-overview does not talk about “WebRTC endpoints”), which also may be impacted based on the outcome of the current terminology/gateway discussion. Regards, Christer From: rtcweb [mailto:rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ted Hardie Sent: 14. elokuuta 2014 18:10 To: rtcweb@ietf.org; Sean Turner; Cullen Jennings Subject: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-stun-consent-freshness This starts a WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-stun-consent-freshness (available at http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rtcweb-stun-consent-freshness/). Please review the document and send comments to the list by September 10, 2014. thanks, Ted Hardie _______________________________________________ rtcweb mailing list rtcweb@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb _______________________________________________ rtcweb mailing list rtcweb@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb -- Surveillance is pervasive. Go Dark.
- [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-stun-… Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… Parthasarathi R
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… Ram Mohan R (rmohanr)
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… Makaraju, Maridi Raju (Raju)
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… Makaraju, Maridi Raju (Raju)
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… Parthasarathi R
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… Makaraju, Maridi Raju (Raju)
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… Makaraju, Maridi Raju (Raju)
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… Makaraju, Maridi Raju (Raju)
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… Makaraju, Maridi Raju (Raju)
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… Rauschenbach, Uwe (NSN - DE/Munich)
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… Makaraju, Maridi Raju (Raju)
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… Makaraju, Maridi Raju (Raju)
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… 🔓Dan Wing
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… Ram Mohan R (rmohanr)
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… Ram Mohan R (rmohanr)
- Re: [rtcweb] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-s… Harald Alvestrand