Re: [rtcweb] Draft proposal for updating Multiparty topologies in draft-ietf-rtcweb-rtp-usage
Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com> Wed, 16 April 2014 12:26 UTC
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Draft proposal for updating Multiparty topologies in draft-ietf-rtcweb-rtp-usage
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On 2014-04-15 23:57, Harald Alvestrand wrote: > On 04/15/2014 05:14 PM, Magnus Westerlund wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I have considered these comments and are okay with modifying the >> recommendation. I have modified the proposed text from Harald somewhat. >> My proposal is the following: >> >> >> WebRTC implementations of RTP endpoints implemented according to this >> memo are expected to support all the topologies described in >> [I-D.ietf-avtcore-rtp-topologies-update] where the RTP endpoints send >> and receive unicast RTP packet streams to and from some peer device, >> provided that peer can participate in performing congestion control >> on the RTP packet streams. The peer device could be another RTP >> endpoint, or it could be an RTP middlebox that redistributes the RTP >> packet streams to other RTP endpoints. This limitation means that >> some of the RTP middlebox-based topologies are not suitable for use >> in the WebRTC environment. Specifically: >> >> o Video switching MCUs (Topo-Video-switch-MCU) SHOULD NOT be used, >> since they make the use of RTCP for congestion control and quality >> of service reports problematic (see Section 3.8 of >> [I-D.ietf-avtcore-rtp-topologies-update]). >> >> o The Relay-Transport Translator (Topo-PtM-Trn-Translator) topology >> SHOULD NOT be used because its safe use requires a point to >> multipoint congestion control algorithm or RTP circuit breaker, >> which has not yet been standardised. > > Grammar warning: The above can be parsed as either > > (multipoint congestion control algorithm) or (RTP circuit breaker) > > or > > multipoint ((congestion control algorithm) or (RTP circuit breaker)) > It is the later that was intended. Because the topology requires congestion control for multi endpoint. Will reword. Thanks Magnus Westerlund ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Services, Media and Network features, Ericsson Research EAB/TXM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ericsson AB | Phone +46 10 7148287 Färögatan 6 | Mobile +46 73 0949079 SE-164 80 Stockholm, Sweden | mailto: magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------
- [rtcweb] Draft proposal for updating Multiparty t… Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [rtcweb] Draft proposal for updating Multipar… Christian Groves
- Re: [rtcweb] Draft proposal for updating Multipar… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Draft proposal for updating Multipar… Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [rtcweb] Draft proposal for updating Multipar… Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [rtcweb] Draft proposal for updating Multipar… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Draft proposal for updating Multipar… Roni Even
- Re: [rtcweb] Draft proposal for updating Multipar… Roni Even
- Re: [rtcweb] Draft proposal for updating Multipar… Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [rtcweb] Draft proposal for updating Multipar… Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [rtcweb] Draft proposal for updating Multipar… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Draft proposal for updating Multipar… Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [rtcweb] Draft proposal for updating Multipar… Roni Even
- Re: [rtcweb] Draft proposal for updating Multipar… Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [rtcweb] Draft proposal for updating Multipar… Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [rtcweb] Draft proposal for updating Multipar… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Draft proposal for updating Multipar… Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [rtcweb] Draft proposal for updating Multipar… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Draft proposal for updating Multipar… Bernard Aboba