Re: [rtcweb] Requesting "SDP or not SDP" debate to be re-opened

Alexandre GOUAILLARD <agouaillard@gmail.com> Tue, 18 June 2013 17:40 UTC

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+1 to reopening the discussion.


On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Roman Shpount <roman@telurix.com> wrote:

> I am also strongly for removing O/A and SDP from the API. This is a wrong
> API surface that does not provide the necessary degree of control for
> building WebRTC apps.
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> Roman Shpount
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> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Robin Raymond <robin@hookflash.com>wrote:
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>>
>> +1
>>
>> ... and to be clear it's SDP with offer/answer that really makes it
>> horrible. Replacing with nicer JSON or a wrapper API solves nothing IMHO.
>>
>> -Robin
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>>   Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net>
>>  18 June, 2013 12:36 PM
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>> I would also appreciate that those in favour of mandating SDP as the
>> core communication for WebRTC explain their rationale again (given the
>> number of arguments against SDP and the frustration SDP is causing),
>> and also that they give arguments and responses to all the SDP related
>> issues nicely summarized in this mail:
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>> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rtcweb/current/msg07873.html
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