Re: [rtcweb] Question about ICE-Lite server
Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Fri, 11 July 2014 17:03 UTC
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From: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 10:02:15 -0700
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Question about ICE-Lite server
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On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 9:13 AM, Justin Uberti <juberti@google.com> wrote: > > > > On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 5:08 AM, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 1:16 AM, Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net> wrote: >> >>> 2014-07-06 6:53 GMT+02:00 Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>: >>> > On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 9:18 PM, Roman Shpount <roman@telurix.com> >>> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> According to RFC 5245: "If its peer has a lite implementation, an >>> agent >>> >> MUST use a regular nomination algorithm." So, this whole problem >>> cannot >>> >> occur. >>> >>> Good point, thanks. Anyhow I don't think I should trust clients :) >>> >>> >>> > Nice catch. That actually changes things, since Firefox always uses >>> > aggressive nomination and for performance reasons, I'm not excited >>> > about moving to regular nomination. This seems like an argument >>> > for perhaps forbidding ICE-Lite. >>> >>> I don't understand, shouldn't that be fixed in Firefox? >> >> >> That's one way to fix it. The other is to require that WebRTC peers do >> full ICE. I'd be interested in hearing what Chrome does. >> > > Chrome supports ICE lite, with regular nomination. There were a lot of > requests for it. > OK. I withdraw my objection. We'll get on fixing the relevant piece of Firefox. -Ekr >> This is not >>> about performance but about real issues in scenarios with IPv4 and >>> IPv6 in which Firefox talks to an ICE Lite peer. >>> >>> Should I address an issue? or is it already known? >> >> >> Feel free to file an issue. >> >> -Ekr >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> rtcweb mailing list >> rtcweb@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb >> >> >
- [rtcweb] Question about ICE-Lite server Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about ICE-Lite server Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about ICE-Lite server Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about ICE-Lite server Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about ICE-Lite server Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about ICE-Lite server Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about ICE-Lite server Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about ICE-Lite server Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about ICE-Lite server Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about ICE-Lite server Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about ICE-Lite server Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about ICE-Lite server Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about ICE-Lite server Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about ICE-Lite server Rauschenbach, Uwe (NSN - DE/Munich)
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about ICE-Lite server Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about ICE-Lite server Lorenzo Miniero
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about ICE-Lite server Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about ICE-Lite server Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about ICE-Lite server Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about ICE-Lite server Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about ICE-Lite server Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about ICE-Lite server Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about ICE-Lite server Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about ICE-Lite server Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about ICE-Lite server Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about ICE-Lite server Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about ICE-Lite server Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about ICE-Lite server Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about ICE-Lite server Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about ICE-Lite server Iñaki Baz Castillo