Re: [rtcweb] WebRTC-SIP interop: and why SDES-SRTP is a need

Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net> Thu, 05 April 2012 18:41 UTC

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From: Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net>
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 20:40:42 +0200
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2012/4/5 Roman Shpount <roman@telurix.com>:
> This can be mitigated with either identity validation

This argument has been already refuted by Fabio, am I right? The
identity is provided by the signaling server so nothing new here.


> or via fingerprint
> validation via an independent channel.

Again, define such an "independent channel" and let me know how the
signaling server CANNOT alter it.


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Iñaki Baz Castillo
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