[rtcweb] Microsoft tells W3C and IETF what we are doing no signs of offering real world interoperability

"Cullen Jennings (fluffy)" <fluffy@cisco.com> Mon, 06 August 2012 16:43 UTC

Return-Path: <fluffy@cisco.com>
X-Original-To: rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89A6721E805E for <rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 6 Aug 2012 09:43:04 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -110.406
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-110.406 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.193, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wg8cKmltwJfx for <rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 6 Aug 2012 09:43:03 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from rcdn-iport-1.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-1.cisco.com [173.37.86.72]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E70FF21E8044 for <rtcweb@ietf.org>; Mon, 6 Aug 2012 09:43:02 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=fluffy@cisco.com; l=294; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1344271383; x=1345480983; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:content-id: content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=2B3WUTLy+S36GdmnMHJHtibB3fDzqaAhjLquryugqKk=; b=bjUDSNZZspI3K6tDBD+mCiRoueAmt8XZQA35n41nkpYQOAYg5SLu5DET kyQJggxBwMcA0KVZrTznYuaD5Xxwro203jrz3m9+zTaFLmjv0hjMG1wg9 mGcFjtvFVoGSLBEyh4d9uzy0rX9SUAHLNaaPy0rStJ0O3oElC7op4Ts6W c=;
X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true
X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAGAETzH1CtJXG+/2dsb2JhbAAkIYU0tBKBB4InEgEnUQE+QicEATSHawubK6AOkW5gA5VJgRSNEoFmgl8
X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,720,1336348800"; d="scan'208";a="108646770"
Received: from rcdn-core2-3.cisco.com ([173.37.113.190]) by rcdn-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 06 Aug 2012 16:43:02 +0000
Received: from xhc-rcd-x14.cisco.com (xhc-rcd-x14.cisco.com [173.37.183.88]) by rcdn-core2-3.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q76Gh23U000728 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Mon, 6 Aug 2012 16:43:02 GMT
Received: from xmb-aln-x02.cisco.com ([169.254.5.72]) by xhc-rcd-x14.cisco.com ([173.37.183.88]) with mapi id 14.02.0298.004; Mon, 6 Aug 2012 11:43:02 -0500
From: "Cullen Jennings (fluffy)" <fluffy@cisco.com>
To: "public-webrtc@w3.org" <public-webrtc@w3.org>, "rtcweb@ietf.org" <rtcweb@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: Microsoft tells W3C and IETF what we are doing no signs of offering real world interoperability
Thread-Index: AQHNc/KKtNgifpdI6EiCHb2fk+96dQ==
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 16:43:01 +0000
Message-ID: <53223349-A31F-4381-899F-82E29B0A0B6C@cisco.com>
Accept-Language: en-US
Content-Language: en-US
X-MS-Has-Attach:
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
x-originating-ip: [10.20.249.167]
x-tm-as-product-ver: SMEX-10.2.0.1135-7.000.1014-19088.004
x-tm-as-result: No--20.316000-8.000000-31
x-tm-as-user-approved-sender: No
x-tm-as-user-blocked-sender: No
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-ID: <253C7FF8E6DD9A4793E8E186DE81F982@cisco.com>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
MIME-Version: 1.0
Subject: [rtcweb] Microsoft tells W3C and IETF what we are doing no signs of offering real world interoperability
X-BeenThere: rtcweb@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: Real-Time Communication in WEB-browsers working group list <rtcweb.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/rtcweb>, <mailto:rtcweb-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rtcweb>
List-Post: <mailto:rtcweb@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:rtcweb-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb>, <mailto:rtcweb-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 16:43:04 -0000

I see that Microsoft decided to wait until the W3C and IETF were close to done before putting together a proposal that, if accepted, would explode most the current works and create maximal delay on this work. 

http://blogs.skype.com/en/2012/08/customizable_ubiquitous_real_t.html