Re: [rtcweb] #1: RFC 4734 citation

Bernard Aboba <bernard_aboba@hotmail.com> Wed, 31 October 2012 17:19 UTC

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RFC 4734 relates to modem and fax events, not DTMF. citation should have been to 4733. 

On Oct 31, 2012, at 8:23, "Harald Alvestrand" <harald@alvestrand.no> wrote:

> On 10/30/2012 02:06 PM, Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote:
>> 2012/10/23 rtcweb issue tracker <trac+rtcweb@trac.tools.ietf.org>:
>>>  Telephone Event - [RFC4734]
>> Could somebody give some points about why DTMFs over media are
>> required in WWW? Isn't DTMF mechanism OLD enough to incorporate it
>> into WebRTC?
>> 
>> Autoanswer: interoperability with legacy telephony world.
> Autoanswer (and you should know this by heart now, it's been said so many times):
> 
> Use case 4.3.2 from draft-ietf-rtcweb-use-cases-and-requirements-09:
> 
> 4.3.2.  Fedex Call
> 
> 4.3.2.1.  Description
> 
>   Alice uses her web browser with a service something like Skype to be
>   able to phone PSTN numbers.  Alice calls 1-800-gofedex.  Alice should
>   be able to hear the initial prompts from the fedex IVR and when the
>   IVR says press 1, there should be a way for Alice to navigate the
>   IVR.
> 
> If you want to argue for having that use case deleted from the requirements, start a debate on that topic. If you have an alternative solution, state that in the positive as what should go into the -audio- draft instead of RFC 4734.
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