Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-transports-00.txt)
Mary Barnes <mary.ietf.barnes@gmail.com> Tue, 27 August 2013 14:47 UTC
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From: Mary Barnes <mary.ietf.barnes@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-transports-00.txt)
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Another +1. Mary. On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 7:53 AM, <Markus.Isomaki@nokia.com> wrote: > Hi,**** > > ** ** > > I would support the adoption of the NAT and Firewall considerations ( > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hutton-rtcweb-nat-firewall-considerations-01) > as a WG document. Or to be more precise, I very much agree with the > requirements summarized in Section 5. Especially this one seems important > to me:**** > > ** ** > > o connect to a TURN server via a HTTP proxy using the HTTP connect**** > > method,**** > > ** ** > > If we want WebRTC to work from many corporate networks I’m aware of, it > would not be possible without this as a fallback capability.**** > > ** ** > > Markus**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org] *On > Behalf Of *ext Bernard Aboba > *Sent:* 21 August, 2013 00:44 > *To:* Hutton, Andrew; rtcweb@ietf.org; Harald Alvestrand > *Subject:* Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-transports-00.txt*** > * > > ** ** > > The NAT/Firewall considerations document does go into detail on the > various traversal scenarios, which helps inform the discussion of what > should or should not be supported in terms of transport. Section 5 > summarizes the recommendations as follows: **** > 5<http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hutton-rtcweb-nat-firewall-considerations-01#section-5>. > Requirements for RTCWEB-enabled browsers**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > For the purpose of relaying RTCWEB media streams or data channels a**** > > browser needs to be able to**** > > ** ** > > o connect to a TURN server via UDP, TCP and TLS,**** > > ** ** > > o connect to a TURN server via a HTTP proxy using the HTTP connect**** > > method,**** > > ** ** > > o connect to a TURN server via the HTTP(s) ports 80/443 instead of**** > > the default STUN ports 3478/5349,**** > > ** ** > > o upgrade the HTTP proxy-relayed connection to the TURN server to**** > > use TLS,**** > > ** ** > > o use the same proxy selection procedure for TURN as currently done**** > > for HTTP,**** > > ** ** > > o switch the usage of the HTTP proxy-relayed connection with the**** > > TURN server from HTTP to STUN/TURN,**** > > ** ** > > o use a preconfigured or standardized port range for UDP-based media**** > > streams or data channels,**** > > ** ** > > o learn from the proxy configuration script about the presence of a**** > > local TURN server and use it for sending UDP traffic to the**** > > internet,**** > > ** ** > > o support ICE-TCP for TCP-based direct media connection to the**** > > RTCWEB peer.**** > > ** ** > > > From: andrew.hutton@siemens-enterprise.com > > To: rtcweb@ietf.org; harald@alvestrand.no > > Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 16:31:28 +0000 > > Subject: Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-transports-00.txt > > > > Section 2.2 "Middle Box Related Functions" should also I assume cover > the case of using a HTTP Proxy or an enterprise TURN server and reference > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hutton-rtcweb-nat-firewall-considerations-01assuming we can get this adopted. > > > > Regards > > Andy**** > > _______________________________________________ > rtcweb mailing list > rtcweb@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb > >
- [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D Act… Markus.Isomaki
- Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D… Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D… Victor Pascual
- Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D… Mary Barnes
- Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D… Sergio Garcia Murillo
- Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D… Salvatore Loreto
- Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D… Alan Johnston
- Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D… Avasarala, Ranjit (NSN - IN/Bangalore)
- Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D… cb.list6
- Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D… Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D… Mary Barnes
- Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D… Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D… Mary Barnes
- Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D… Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations and draf… Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D… Tirumaleswar Reddy (tireddy)
- Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D… Hutton, Andrew
- Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D… Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D… Hutton, Andrew
- Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D… Mary Barnes
- Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D… Hutton, Andrew
- Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D… Mary Barnes
- Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D… Magnus Westerlund