Re: [rtcweb] A problem with both A and B

Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> Thu, 23 May 2013 11:04 UTC

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From: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] A problem with both A and B
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Hi,

>>>> What if the new source produces pre-encoded stream that is not been 
>>>> negotiated within the current session ?
>>>> example: video m=line with VP8 is setup and H.264 encoded camera is 
>>>> added as new source. This needs a O/A negotiation for the 
>>>> appropriate decoder context to be setup on the receiver side
>>>
>>> Obviously this does require a new O/A but I don't see how that case is related to adding and removing SSRCs which do not require O/A exchanges.
>> 
>> It depends on whether you need to signal the SSRC to the remote endpoint for demux purpose.
>
> Exactly, and since I've been arguing that you don't ... :)

Ok. So, maybe I've missed it, but how do you suggest the received media is:

1. associated with the m- line; and
2. demuxed

Regards,

Christer