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Re: [rtcweb] realiable data service

Serge Lachapelle <sergel@google.com> Wed, 20 July 2011 19:11 UTC

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From: Serge Lachapelle <sergel@google.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 21:11:17 +0200
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>
> For other cases (file xfer), yes you can use those - but the problem is
> that when you want to transfer to the person you're chatting with, you would
> need to use another service, agree on it, deal with the
> semantics/accounts/limits/etc for that service, etc.  A horrible user
> experience.  Even if it was "hidden" by the application, it would be
> problematic and subject to breakage continually.


If I am building a 1:1 or hangout style application connecting my users, I
would simply integrate it or add the functionality in the web UI I am
building. This is very easy to do with web services these days.

/Serge

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