[rtcweb] WebRTC JS object API with SDP shim option
Robin Raymond <robin@hookflash.com> Thu, 20 June 2013 16:55 UTC
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Subject: [rtcweb] WebRTC JS object API with SDP shim option
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You are right. It's time for those of us who are begging for an alternative to SDP to come up with an alternative. I'm willing to lead such an effort. I just ask others to please have an open mind. I absolutely do understand the need for the SIP world to have an easy API they can use for SDP. But I also know SDP as an primary surface API is making anything beyond a basic calling a requirement to mangle SDP as a mechanism to control and obtain properties from an underlying media/RTC engine. I think there is a really good compromise. That is to provide an API that will adhere to the security policies needed (e.g. respects the need to require ICE establishment), but provides a simple shim API similar to what people already have with SDP but not be required to use for those who want to a more direct approach. There's no need to "burn" the entire thing to the ground and start over and that is _not_ my desire. This WebRTC thing must succeed but I can't imagine the W3C accepting our proposal for mangling SDP as a primary surface API to do common edge case scenarios. WIth an alternative proposal that satisfies both camps, I believe they could accept and we can stop the anit-SDP crowd grumblings once and for all. To that end I'm going to write two drafts: draft-raymond-webrtc-js-object-api-rationale-00 (to explain requirements, philosophy, methodology, benefits/pitfalls, use cases that are difficult/impossible with SDP+O/A) draft-raymond-webrtc-js-object-api-00 (to outline the actual API) Plus, I'll produce a shim on top of whatever API that will allow the SDP folks to have a simple SDP based API similar to what exists now but is entirely written in JavaScript to prove that this can be done. I really want a viable solutions for all interested in having a really good proposal API to ultimately become accepted by the W3C. If anyone has anything I should add to either of these drafts or wants to be involved, please contact me. -Robin Christer Holmberg <mailto:christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> 20 June, 2013 12:55 AM Hi, At the virtual interim, the Plan A and Plan B folks were asked to sit down and try to come up with a compromise "Plan AB" solution. I guess it would be good if people that don't want SDP could try to come up with a compromise "CU No Plan" solution :) Regards, Christer
- [rtcweb] WebRTC JS object API with SDP shim option Robin Raymond
- Re: [rtcweb] WebRTC JS object API with SDP shim o… Peter Thatcher
- Re: [rtcweb] WebRTC JS object API with SDP shim o… Robin Raymond
- Re: [rtcweb] WebRTC JS object API with SDP shim o… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] WebRTC JS object API with SDP shim o… Robin Raymond
- Re: [rtcweb] WebRTC JS object API with SDP shim o… Peter Thatcher
- Re: [rtcweb] WebRTC JS object API with SDP shim o… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] WebRTC JS object API with SDP shim o… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] WebRTC JS object API with SDP shim o… Bossiel thioriguel
- Re: [rtcweb] WebRTC JS object API with SDP shim o… Roman Shpount