Re: [rtcweb] Requiring ICE for RTC calls

We can still talk to them via a media gateway, which robust telephony
services will already provide for the reasons I mentioned previously.

On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Roman Shpount <roman@telurix.com> wrote:

> Sorry, correcting myself, there are over 5 billion mobile phones worldwide.
> Are you sure we don't need to talk to them.
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> On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Roman Shpount <roman@telurix.com> wrote:
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>> Bernard,
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>> What about 500M Skype users? Skype for SIP does not support SRTP or
>> ICE.What about 2 billion wireless subscribers? Despite what you think number
>> of phones and phone numbers is growing, and a wast majority of these phones
>> are dumb wireless phones.
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>> On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 11:44 PM, Bernard Aboba <
>> bernard_aboba@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>> > And "interoperability with SIP-PSTN providers" is only relevant if you
>>> > are trying to turn the browser into another phone. We have enough
>>> > phones. What we don't have are new real-time communication experiences
>>> > that can only be created within this environment.
>>>
>>> [BA] I think you may be on to something here.  POTS lines are dropping so
>>> rapidly
>>> that wireline service won't even exist in some countries within a few
>>> years.  While
>>> PSTN interop may have been a key scenario in the early days of SIP, I
>>> have serious
>>> doubts as to how much attention we should pay to this in RTCWEB.  Ability
>>> to
>>> make a call to an E.164 number?  Probably.  Support for every potential
>>> corner
>>> case?  Not necessarily.
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