Re: [rtcweb] Data Channel Negotiation and reopening of decisions

Michael Tuexen <Michael.Tuexen@lurchi.franken.de> Sat, 16 February 2013 15:23 UTC

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On Feb 15, 2013, at 10:56 PM, Matthew Kaufman (SKYPE) wrote:

> None if this would be a problem if we weren't making the mistake of using SCTP, which itself made the mistake of doing full-duplex channels instead of unidirectional channels with optional one-to-one or even many-to-one associations (as RTMFP has, as an example)
SCTP streams uni-directional. That is why we use a simple protocol to realize bi-directional
data channels by combining two uni-directional streams.
SCTP association, however, are point-to-point. The API (1-to-many style) allows sending
a single messages (a single send() call) on all associations belonging to that socket.

Best regards
Michael
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> Matthew Kaufman
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> On Feb 15, 2013, at 1:16 PM, "Martin Thomson" <martin.thomson@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 15 February 2013 12:55, Michael Tuexen
>> <Michael.Tuexen@lurchi.franken.de> wrote:
>>> I think I understand what you are proposing. But what happens, if
>>> both sides at about the same time open want to open a data channel.
>>> For both sides outgoing stream X is free, so they use this. So the
>>> endpoints end up with one data channel instead of two.
>> 
>> Actually, I'd go further than that.  I'd require that browser
>> implement the same algorithm for selecting the stream to use.  That
>> implies that in all cases other than the rarest race conditions, you
>> get the same data channel.
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